So is freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of religion. In fact, unlike so many other Western nations Americans don't threaten or imprison writers just because they don't like what they've written.
4 Law Enforcement Officials Killed, 4 Injured in Charlotte, N.C.
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So is freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of religion. In fact, unlike so many other Western nations Americans don't threaten or imprison writers just because they don't like what they've written.
Insults, rather than intelligent debate, are the preference of those who need to grow up.
TennVet
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Four law enforcement officers didn't go home at the end of the day. I was taught at an early age to respect law enforcement, and I don't feel like changing that now. You don't start shooting at law enforcement officers knocking at your door because you are a model citizen. That person obviously knew right from wrong, and he didn't go home at night either. I support law enforcement, and when I meet them on the street or at the cafe, I speak and encourage them to be careful. I've been shot at, I didn't like it. I respect those who put aside natural fear and move toward the danger for us.
@VaughanJB
I was actually being facetious and taking the P!55 out of the NRA who invariably use this in the short term to stifle any attempts to debate guns and their place in the American psyche.
Meanwhile @oslooskar wants to have an 'intelligent debate' on this emotive and topical issue. Pfft praise the lord and pass the ammunition.
No! No! No! I'm terribly sorry, but you're not allowed to have any ammunition.
You're onto me aren't you?
Go on hog all the ammo for yourself.
George1959
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Most interesting: "Non-Thai citizens are not permitted to own firearms in Thailand".
Really? I don't find it the least bit interesting. After all, there are numerous countries all over the world where citizens and non-citizens alike are not permitted to own or possess firearms. Personally, I would most likely be fascinated by the mindset of the Israelis if I were a psychiatrist. They seem to be a classic example of what Arthur Schopenhauer meant about classroom-educated individuals often lacking in common sense. I say this because they are a nation that is almost completely surrounded by hostiles who want to kill them, yet they willingly tolerate strict gun control laws that prevent them from having immediate access to firearms. Come to think of it, I don't think those ridiculous Israeli gun laws did much good this last October; quite the opposite, me thinks.
George1959
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It is interesting, since only citizens seem to have the right for self-defence with firearms. Many male German seniors are living in Thailand. This would be a reason for me not to live there.
On Tuesday morning, my sister called me at 1 in the morning and said someone was trying her door to get in. I live about 20 minutes away. I jumped in my vehicle and was there in less than 15 minutes. I saw a tall thin man walking through her development, so I got ahead of him and jumped him from behind. I had hid behind a large bush.
Once I had him under control, I found a .380 stuck in his waistband and a knife in a sheath around his ankle. I disarmed him and notified the police. I gave my statement and left. This morning at 11: 00, I am going to attend his bail hearing. He’s using a public defender so I hope the judge sets his bail at the maximum of $50,000. That will cost him about $3500 (7%) to get out of jail. I know nothing about him, does he have parents? Does he have any relatives in the area?
I haven’t seen the arrest report, but I will this morning. My concern is that your normal thief doesn’t carry deadly weapons, so what were his intentions? I’m sure the judge will ask him, but I don’t expect an answer. He will be bailed and remanded
Once I had him under control, I found a .380 stuck in his waistband and a knife in a sheath around his ankle. I disarmed him and notified the police. I gave my statement and left. This morning at 11: 00, I am going to attend his bail hearing. He’s using a public defender so I hope the judge sets his bail at the maximum of $50,000. That will cost him about $3500 (7%) to get out of jail. I know nothing about him, does he have parents? Does he have any relatives in the area?
I haven’t seen the arrest report, but I will this morning. My concern is that your normal thief doesn’t carry deadly weapons, so what were his intentions? I’m sure the judge will ask him, but I don’t expect an answer. He will be bailed and remanded
A convicted felon with another felony on his record knew he was probably going back to jail for life or come out a senior citizen. POS had a woman and 17 year old with him. Even if accomplishes he put them at risk. The killer punched his own one way ticket long ago.
Are you making reference to all the genocides that keep taking place all over the world? If so, I can only opine that had the victims been armed they most likely would have survived.
Well, that is certainly better than being in Great Britain where nobody has the right to self-defense with firearms.
Okay, I'll take the bait, why would that be a reason for you not to live here? Mind you, one of my neighbors is an Israeli.
TennVet
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I would never fool myself that gun control is at the heart of the events that resulted in the death of 4 law officers, the injury of 4 more and the criminal whose life was also wasted. This was, as I see it, another case of someone who thought they could violate the law and win that discussion in the streets. There was a legal route the perpetrator could take. He made a gravely foolish decision and everyone lost as a result.
Right! And I would never be so naive or delusional as to believe that gun regulations preventing law-abiding citizens from accessing firearms save lives. In fact, I can only opine that they do quite the opposite, as was clearly evident on October seventh in Israel.
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Warrigal
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Well, that could be because each state formulates different laws. Only a national approach will succeed in lowering the death rate from firearms. This is highly unlikely to happen in US so the death rate will continue to be high, and many thousands of people will die violently each year.
Where's your evidence of that?
"high"???? Despite its prominence, the USA does not even rank within the top 50 countries for homicide rates globally. Also, the homicide rate is going down in the USA.
Yes, at least 800,000 of them died violent deaths in Rwanda because they did not have firearms to protect themselves.
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Warrigal
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Warrigal, if you want to debate, then please make it easier for me to accurately quote you. The bottom line is that the crime rate in Australia is increasing, whereas in the United States, it's decreasing.
Additionally, unlike our Constitution, yours doesn't even include a Bill of Rights. You mentioned, "You cannot compare the Rwanda genocide (1994) to US," but I wasn't comparing it to the U.S., as you know. The point was clearly that the absence of firearms resulted in the deaths of 800,000 people, many of whom were women and children. In fact, in Rwanda, far more children were murdered because their parents were unarmed and unable to protect them than in Sandy Hook.
Comparing Australia to the United States is illogical. After all, Australia is a continent surrounded by water and doesn't share an almost 2000-mile-long border with a violent crime-ridden Third World country. Furthermore, it doesn't have a minority population of 13.4% responsible for over 50% of its homicides.
Additionally, unlike our Constitution, yours doesn't even include a Bill of Rights. You mentioned, "You cannot compare the Rwanda genocide (1994) to US," but I wasn't comparing it to the U.S., as you know. The point was clearly that the absence of firearms resulted in the deaths of 800,000 people, many of whom were women and children. In fact, in Rwanda, far more children were murdered because their parents were unarmed and unable to protect them than in Sandy Hook.
Comparing Australia to the United States is illogical. After all, Australia is a continent surrounded by water and doesn't share an almost 2000-mile-long border with a violent crime-ridden Third World country. Furthermore, it doesn't have a minority population of 13.4% responsible for over 50% of its homicides.
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Well, gee, who else would be creeping between the homes at 2 in the morning? Besides, my sister texted me 2 pictures from her outside camera. He appeared to match the build of the person I was tracking.
jimintoronto
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TennVet
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Agreed. I have to believe that law enforcement knew they were serving a warrant on a very dangerous criminal. You don't send that many experienced officers to deliver a parking ticket. We all know that the cry for gun control is a false flag. Criminals get guns no matter what the law says. Politicians tend to say pass a law simply to preserve their next election bid's success. The culprit is dead. The sadness of law officer deaths is the heartbreaking. When you have officers that run into danger you support them and lift them up, you don't shout for gun control. Get some common sense.