Celebs leaving America question.

[Inept]

...... The definition of nationality I read is: " where they are a legal citizen".

Yes,

" ... usually in the country where they were born"

This so misleading that it shouldn't even be mentioned. It is an irrelevant comment.

"the status of belonging to a particular nation".

Yes.

That is how I interpret nationality as well.

Yes. You can (in many cases) have dual nationality but the rule is the same and is self-explanitory.

 

[Murrmurr]

I read you and your definition of nationality intrigued me, so I looked it up. The definition of nationality I read is: " where they are a legal citizen, usually in the country where they were born" "the status of belonging to a particular nation".
That is how I interpret nationality as well. What you describe I see it as origin, more of a cultural thing.

Yes. People are not asked to give that up when they immigrate to the US....that was the issue.

They used to be asked to denounce allegiance to their nation of origin (not their nationality), but I don't know if they still do that. I've only seen a new batch of citizens being sworn-in once, and that was back in 2008...or maybe 2007.

 

[Rossana]

@Inept
Not worth arguing about. It is taking the thread out of context. From now on I will completely avoid you and your dissections of my sentences.

 

[Inept]

@Inept
From now on I will completely avoid you .

Sounds like a good idea. I don’t understand how criticising the person you quoted makes you feel it is something personal towards you, but …….. OK.

 

[Inept]

Having been born in France of American parents, I do wish the French government would allow those born there to reside there.

Can you not?

If I had the money, I would love to live in Provence.. ...

Are you working?

 

[hearlady]

I looked at my list of things to care about. This was not on it.
No offense to your thread @chic It's drawing a lot of interest.

 

[Pepper]

Did you ever face the decision? Did you ever have to reason with yourself if you can dance at two weddings?

An aside. My mother used to say "You can't dance at all weddings." I really liked seeing you say something similar.

 

[Pappy]

 

[Pepper]

I need a vacation. I would leave if I could. For many reasons, nothing to do with patriotism, I can't.

 

[Inept]

I looked at my list of things to care about. This was not on it.

That's one of the three best answers so far.

 

[Widow of Vietnam Vet]

A great point! I loved Shzron Stone in The Mighty,and the young actors were terrific Sting did the music for this movie
And I loved George Clooney in The Descendants with great young actors too. All the music was Hawaiian. But they never influenced my vote.

 

[fwtxcitywoman]

Can you not?

Are you working?

No, I'm retired. I don't meet the requirements for a residence VISA. There is the short term one has to renew regularly. Just about the only thing going for me is my retired status and I have above the French visa income. And after all these years, I speak very little French.

A dream. I'm old and it would be difficult.

 

[jlhog]

Illegal, and irrational. They are free to live where they want for whatever reason they want.

Illegal, and irrational. They are free to live where they want for whatever reason they want.

New laws can be created. But at any rate we are all "entitled" to our own opinion.

 

[Inept]

I don't meet the requirements for a residence VISA.

I forgot - you're not an EU member. I've lived in France myself but all I had to do was go down and register. It was done in ten minutes.

There is the short term one has to renew regularly.

That's not so bad. Just go down to the préfecture every ..... what ..... 6 months, annually, 3 years, 5 years? It's only a formality.

Just about the only thing going for me is my retired status and I have above the French visa income.

"the only thing"? That's a lot!

And after all these years, I speak very little French.

Alas!

I'm old and it would be difficult.

This I understand.

 

[Inept]

...... we are all "entitled" to our own opinion.

"Entitled". I wonder what that word means. We can all think. Can we express what we think?

 

[Buckeye]

So, out of 350,000,000 Americans, about a dozen old Hollywood has-beens make a grand exit in hopes of a little more media attention, I wish them well, but I won't miss a single one of them.

 

[Inept]

...... about a dozen old Hollywood has-beens make a grand exit in hopes of a little more media attention, .....

Precisely!

 

[Twostep]

I forgot - you're not an EU member. I've lived in France myself but all I had to do was go down and register. It was done in ten minutes.

That's not so bad. Just go down to the préfecture every ..... what ..... 6 months, annually, 3 years, 5 years? It's only a formality.

"the only thing"? That's a lot!

Alas!

This I understand.

There is a bit more involved nowadays including proof of medical coverage.

 

[Pepper]

With the internet and travel, does it matter where anyone lives anymore?

 

[jimintoronto]

So, out of 350,000,000 Americans, about a dozen old Hollywood has-beens make a grand exit in hopes of a little more media attention, I wish them well, but I won't miss a single one of them.

You might want to consider this fact...Since 2012, about 2.2 million Americans have left the USA, to live and work in other countries. https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2022/dec/23/millions-of-americans-have-left-the-country-where-/

 

[Jules]

Did these people actually leave the US or did they just buy a vacation house and the media created a story?

 

[Aunt Bea]

I don’t worry about the number of Americans that choose to leave the United States.

I’ll start worrying when the number of legal and illegal immigrants from around the world begins to drop and people stop choosing the United States in favor of another destination.

 

[Inept]

I need a vacation. I would leave if I could. For many reasons, nothing to do with patriotism, I can't.

If I were in NYC I'd find a way to take you away for at least a couple of days. Even if I have to put your house on wheels and take the whole place with us

 

[chic]

So, out of 350,000,000 Americans, about a dozen old Hollywood has-beens make a grand exit in hopes of a little more media attention, I wish them well, but I won't miss a single one of them.

Ok. I don't care what celebs do either. BUT, these are people with plenty of money who have always lived and worked in the U.S. but have now decided to leave, perhaps permanently, and that is the point.

BF and I would also like to live abroad now but I don't have a celeb's money or experience and we couldn't afford to take the whole family, but if we could, we would.

And so would others.

And maybe this is what needs to happen.

This was my point.

 

[Lilac]

Yes. People are not asked to give that up when they immigrate to the US....that was the issue.

They used to be asked to denounce allegiance to their nation of origin (not their nationality), but I don't know if they still do that. I've only seen a new batch of citizens being sworn-in once, and that was back in 2008...or maybe 2007.

You got me curious of the wording & I found this at https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/n-400-topic-exercises/The-Oath-Of-Allegiance.pdf:

The Oath of Allegiance to the United States of America

“I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen;

…that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic;

…that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;

…that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law;

…that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law;

…that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and

…that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.”