How can anyone still believe in covid?

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January said:
who is they??

nobody disputes that bacteria, fungi and parasites are the cause of things - some diseases are caused by those and some by viruses

I doubt anybody disputes excessive calories, contaminated water, polluted air , poor nutrition are causes of illness too

seems a complete strawman to me - ie you are arguing against statements nobody is making
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"They" are the elites of this world who, because of their wealth and position, feel they have the right to make decisions for the everyone else in the world. Like the W.E.F. e

The W.E.F. has also infiltrated another group of power which this forum's guidelines forbids us to discuss. Ok?
 

I don't have a lot to contribute to this discussion. My wife & I each tested positive for Covid about 18 months ago. We each had a pretty mild case. Mine was uncomfortable for maybe five days, and lasted about a week overall. Lasted a little longer for DW. We'd been vaccinated.

Two neighbors (both friends of ours) didn't believe in the pandemic, but both got a case of it about 2/3 of the way through the pandemic. One had gotten a jab, required by his employment (his case was mild). The other had rejected vaccination, his case was bad, but not life threatening.

In just in the last two weeks, a 'senior' couple we know very well came down with bad cases of Covid (yes, tested positive), but they've been on the mend.
 
Tazx said:
Well I appreciate your honesty on the numbers. Actually really impressed. Most people do not do that. But I also am sorry that you believe that these vaccines are not killing people. How do you explain that large increases in deaths in most countries of the world, the lack of birthrate in vaxxed people, the amount of miscarriages in pregnancies. This one I can confirm. My son and his wife had a baby (both unjabbed), but one set of their friends (jabbed) can't get pregnant, the other miscarried after 2 months. Have tried again, and still can't conceive. This small segment is just a small part of the bigger picture. I am sorry you can't see it. But honestly a little bit of digging and its all there in B &W.
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Three couples is hardly a reliable study.
 
I believe it is up to an individual on whether they want to be vaxxed or not unless, of course, their employment mandates vaccination as a requirement for continued employment. I use a lot of discretion when reading or listening to the “news”. There are people who side with the vaccine and people who won’t go near it – let it be their decision – we should not dictate or judge them either way. Let’s just get on with life – the crisis has past, we have come through it – let’s hope we have learned something from a global crisis and the best thing to come away with is to continue to be kind, not judge anyone and show compassion.
 
Polio was caused by lead in water pipes and swimming pools (FDR), and by vaccinations.
The Spanish Flu was caused by vaccinations, was not caused by a virus, and was not contagious. <--

Diseases are primarily caused by pollution such as lead, pesticides, drugs, chemicals, food additives, smoke, exhaust,
smog, radioactivity; and secondly by visible parasites, but not by imaginary viruses, that have never been proven to exist.

January said:
Completely false information - clearly many many people caught polio who never went swimming
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#1- Strawman argument - no one here ever said that swimming caused polio.

January said:
clearly there are many records of polio prior to the vaccine.
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#2- You should do some research before posting. The first vaccinations were created in 1872,
and millions of people had already died from them by the time that polio, caused by lead and toxic
vaccinations but misattributed to an imaginary virus that was never proven to exist, was discovered in 1948.

Propaganda posted from toxic pharma chemical corporations and their outlets is BS propaganda - not science.

January said:
The claim was that lead in swimming pools was a cause - how are you suggesting that caused polio in people who never went swimming or anywhere near swimming pools?
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#3- Another Strawman argument - I never said swimming pools caused polio.
I said that lead in water pipes AND in swimming pools (like happened to FDR) was a cause of the polio condition.

#4- You posted a biased pharma sourced claim that there was a polio virus 4000 years ago, which is false.
There still as of today is no valid consistent test for a virus, which there would need to be if viruses actually existed.

Lead (not swimming pools) is a cause of the polio condition, which has nothing to do with a virus.
The polio condition has occurred for a long time but a polio virus has never existed and is not a cause.

If viruses actually existed there would have to be a valid consistent test for them and there isn't one.
 
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I think it is disgusting the way people were forced to get the C vaccine or lose their jobs.our Daughters both depended on their jobs
Our Daughters both disability carers, had the Jabs one has had to leave her job because of Vacc injury.
Older daughter wittnessed an adult male non verbal Autistic patient being focibly restrained to get the vaccination,and he ended up getting Covid anway poor soul.
Governments have a lot of blood on their hands.

If you like getting the vaccines thats ok, its your choice.
 
JeeperDon said:
You're an idiot.
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I would say a conspiracy follower. COVID 19 was/is a deadly worldwide pandemic which killed thousands of people, including someone in my family.

People lost their loved ones who died while on ventilators in the hospitals and were not even permitted to stay with them in their final hours due to the spread of the virus.

The vaccinations helped save lives, and just like the flu vaccine, it did not mean that you would not contract the deadly virus, but if you did, your symptoms would be milder and likely not cause hospitalizations or death.
 
Lara said:
I only saw a new member being ganged up on by a group here and I didn't believe him to be trying to sell anything so not a troll nor stupid as you all seem to believe. I've been bullied before in SF and it hurts so I didn't want this to happen to a new member. Now I'm getting bullied and accused of saying things I never said and have never even expressed an opinion here. Please be nice.
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Covid denial is dangerous, and is not simply a matter of opinion. Google the name "Olavo de Carvalho", as only one example. If they endangered only themselves, I guess it's fair enough - but when they try to influence others, it needs to be called out. IMO
 
nan said:
I think it is disgusting the way people were forced to get the C vaccine or lose their jobs.our Daughters both depended on their jobs
Our Daughters both disability carers, had the Jabs one has had to leave her job because of Vacc injury.
Older daughter wittnessed an adult male non verbal Autistic patient being focibly restrained to get the vaccination,and he ended up getting Covid anway poor soul.
Governments have a lot of blood on their hands.

If you like getting the vaccines thats ok, its your choice.
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I'm so sorry to hear about your daughter's injury. How is she doing?
 
John cycling said:
2- You should do some research before posting. The first vaccinations were created in 1872,
and millions of people had already died from them by the time that polio, caused by lead and toxic
vaccinations but misattributed to an imaginary virus that was never proven to exist, was discovered in 1948.
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Polio - Wikipedia

Perhaps you should do some research yourself.

Polio has been around since pre history

 
VaughanJB said:
Covid denial is dangerous, and is not simply a matter of opinion. Google the name "Olavo de Carvalho", as only one example. If they endangered only themselves, I guess it's fair enough - but when they try to influence others, it needs to be called out. IMO
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Why did you address me in your post? I've never expressed a Covid opinion here. I've only requested that members not attack the new poster but attack the post. The Poster has been called names like Idiot, Troll and Stupid. This does NOT mean I stood up for the poster's opinion on Covid. Just try to discuss this like intelligent adults and stop involving me.
 
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chic said:
"They" are the elites of this world who, because of their wealth and position, feel they have the right to make decisions for the everyone else in the world. Like the W.E.F. e

The W.E.F. has also infiltrated another group of power which this forum's guidelines forbids us to discuss. Ok?
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So you are saying the elites of the world are not saying bacteria fungi, parasites, poor nutrition etc ever cause any disases???
Because this is the paragraph I was asking who they is

Funny how they never say bacteria, fungi, or parasites is the cause of anything....just a virus.
I find it hilarious they never say bad food, sugar, pop, fast food, excessive calories, contaminated pipes, water or the fact that our air is gross-is the cause of anything!

I have never heard anyone claim that - please provide link to whoever they are who are doing so.
 
For crying out loud! Y'all are beating a dead horse. Can we just give it up? There are people who will believe any conspiracy theory out there, and no facts, no statistics, no proof whatsoever is going to change their minds.

Since no political subjects are allowed, there are those among us who will latch onto this, or whatever conspiracy theory is out there.

"They." They say. Give it a rest.
 
Someone mentioned the Polio period in the early '50s, and I was there. In Chicago, we kids were told to stay away from the public pools (like Whelan and Riis). It wasn't because of the water, it was because of the hundreds of kids from all over that could be contaminated. True of not, that is what we were told.

Had one school mate that had it, and he survived but still walks with a pronounced limp. My Wife's childhood friend lived in an iron lung until he died, and she still talks sadly of seeing him.

I recall being lined up in gym one day (55-56 ?) and each of us was administered a shot in the arm. None caught polio! My wife got hers via "sugar cube" three years later.

Trust me, whether growing up in Chicago or Houston, Polio was pretty darn scary and lethal!
 
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