NASA hopes new study helps bring UFO research into the mainstream

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"One of the things that we tangentially hope to be part of this study ... is to help to remove some of the stigma associated with it."

NASA hopes it can help move the study of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) off the scientific fringes and into the mainstream. The agency announced today (June 9) that it has commissioned a panel to investigate UAP, a recent rebranding that is pushing out the more familiar term "unidentified flying object" (UFO). The NASA study will begin this fall, take about nine months to complete and cost no more than $100,000, agency officials said during a call with reporters today. The main goal is to assess the state of the UAP data landscape and how it can be improved going forward.

"The study will focus on identifying available data, how to best collect future data and how NASA can use these data to move the scientific understanding of UAPs forward," Thomas Zurbuchen, the associate administrator for science at NASA headquarters in Washington, said during today's call. Or, in other words, "take a field that is relatively data poor and make it into a field that is much more data rich and therefore worthy of scientific investigation and analysis," he added.

Such work is very much in NASA's bailiwick, Zurbuchen said, noting that the agency's many research priorities cover, among other things, the hunt for alien life, investigating mysterious cosmic objects and phenomena and helping to keep American aircraft safe and secure. (The first "A" in NASA stands for "aeronautics," and UAP could represent a threat to planes and other aerial vehicles.) And, like the U.S. Department of Defense, NASA is not afraid to put its name behind the push to demystify UAP. (The DoD has set up multiple UAP-studying task forces in the past few years, stressing that understanding the phenomena is important for national security purposes.)

"In a traditional type of science environment, talking about some of these issues may be considered kind of selling out or talking about things that are not actual science," Zurbuchen said. "I just really vehemently oppose that. I really believe that the quality of science is not only measured by the outputs that come behind it but also the questions we're willing to tackle with science." Indeed, NASA hopes that the newly announced panel, and the work that it does, will help normalize UAP sightings and research, bringing more and better information into scientists' databases.

"One of the things you might have heard in the congressional hearings a few weeks ago was, there is a great deal of stigma associated with UAP among our naval aviators and in the aviation community," Daniel Evans, assistant deputy associate administrator for research at NASA's Science Mission Directorate, said during today's call. Evans is the NASA official responsible for orchestrating the study, which will be led by astrophysicist David Spergel, president of the Simons Foundation in New York City. "One of the things that we tangentially hope to be part of this study, simply by talking about it in the open, is to help to remove some of the stigma associated with it," Evans added. "That will yield, obviously, increased access to data, more reports, more sightings, et cetera. So that's another thing that we're trying to accomplish with it."
 

In my opinion, unidentified aerial phenomena isn't a replacement for the term unidentified flying object, until the AUP dips into our atmosphere. (But perhaps that is true for UFO's as well). It would, possibly, make aircraft pilots more willing to come forward with unusual sightings. No-one wants to be labeled as a nut-case witnessing a UFO full of little grey aliens! So, perhaps, UAP will loosen tongues and increase the number and quality of investigations. To borrow from another topic:

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I believe.

And yes, I have seen some things.

Don't really want to discuss it...just creates two sides and arguments.

Supposedly there is a lot of activity in New York State, near Woodstock.

The biggest interaction with them was once when I was coming back from a jazz concert in Woodstock. Didn't happen there, but on the way back, when I was already in Jersey. That was 1981.

I really did not get the sense that there is anything to fear from them.

Had another incident, less powerful, in late 90's, here in NJ. It was a little weird for me, because it was right near this chemical plant. And I happen to know that that chemical plant made some of the drugs for lethal injections for prisoners. I kind of wondered if there was a connection to that? Was it "newsworthy" to them or something?

Who knows...
 
In my opinion, unidentified aerial phenomena isn't a replacement for the term unidentified flying object, until the AUP dips into our atmosphere. (But perhaps that is true for UFO's as well). It would, possibly, make aircraft pilots more willing to come forward with unusual sightings. No-one wants to be labeled as a nut-case witnessing a UFO full of little grey aliens! So, perhaps, UAP will loosen tongues and increase the number and quality of investigations. To borrow from another topic:

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Several pilots, both military and non-military and other military personnel have come forward. Some spoke at the National Press Club's UFO conferences. The first one may be the one I saw originally. @Gaer


This one is from an earlier conference in 2001.

 
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Several pilots, both military and non-military and other military personnel have come forward. Some spoke at the National Press Club's UFO conferences. The first one may be the one I saw originally. @Gaer


This one is from an earlier conference in 2001.

Perhaps advanced alien races from space are just trying to protect us from ourselves - or save this planet for themselves in the future. Of course, the UFO's could just be our earthly enemies scouting potential targets. Either way, more data and research is necessary.
 
Perhaps advanced alien races from space are just trying to protect us from ourselves - or save this planet for themselves in the future. Of course, the UFO's could just be our earthly enemies scouting potential targets. Either way, more data and research is necessary.
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I had visual contact with a UFO over the Mediterranean in 1992. It never showed up on radar and when I took pictures of it, nothing developed on the digital hard drive. I was told that it was my imagination. Today, we have more sophisticated visual technology and are getting pictures. They are just unidentifiable.
 
It is ironic that it was other US Government agencies that made a mockery of UFO phenomena. But then they made criminal of Dr. Timothy Leary who was conducting experiments in effects of LSD in controlled settings where subjects could be kept safe while government agencies were dosing military and others in uncontrolled conditions, often without even advising their subjects a mind altering substance was being given to them.

This bears repeating: i don't think exterrestials are any more monolithic in motives/intent than various human demographic groups are. Consider the differences between terrestials when we are genert all considered the same species (tho some claim some of us may descendents of ETs).
 
A few years ago when the UAP/UFO phenomenon came into the main stream with the USN video footage I and many others wondered if we were being prepped for disclosure.
The participants of the National Press Club conference on UFOs that I saw encouraged the U.S. to give full disclosure. This included officials from other countries who had seen UFOs themselves or had heard from absolutely credible witnesses. I'm not sure which year the one I saw excerpts from took place. The UK released their UFO documents to the public years ago.
 
I believe when people "see' things in sky, it's that they are seeing some kind of phenomena. But to leap to conclude the phenomena are space aliens, without dispensing with every conceivable earthly origin, is wishful thinking. People talk about UFOs as if they were verified alien encounters, when UFO means, we don't what the hell that was. And by definition, a UFO can't be an alien encounter then we 'd know what the hell it was. Yet, say, "UFO" and some see green aliens all over the place. That said, I would welcome a scientific examination to determine the origin of phenomena seen in the sky.
Personally, I believe there is other life in the universe, but the odds, are with such huge distances, they'll never get here; nor we, there.
 
I believe when people "see' things in sky, it's that they are seeing some kind of phenomena. But to leap to conclude the phenomena are space aliens, without dispensing with every conceivable earthly origin, is wishful thinking. People talk about UFOs as if they were verified alien encounters, when UFO means, we don't what the hell that was. And by definition, a UFO can't be an alien encounter then we 'd know what the hell it was. Yet, say, "UFO" and some see green aliens all over the place. That said, I would welcome a scientific examination to determine the origin of phenomena seen in the sky.
Personally, I believe there is other life in the universe, but the odds, are with such huge distances, they'll never get here; nor we, there.
Isn't it interesting how some of us assume that because terrans haven't solved the distance, speed problems involved no other species could either. Similar to how we project our attitudes toward others onto them.

Most generals assume they'll want to conquer, the insatiably curious think they'll want to study us, and those disappointed in humanities level of development (in psycho-social ways) hope they'll want to save us. To all i say, be careful what you expect, you might manifest it.
 
I suspect UFOs or whatever you want to call them are not associated with intelligent beings from anywhere but the earth.

However, if well done, something like this could provide some insight. I do believe people see things they believe are from outer space, even if they are not better understanding what is being seen would help.

There are also people who imagine things, or just make them up. It will be harder to prove this, just not usually enough information.

Not sure this will change a lot of minds, but it might help some of the more credible and truthful people seeing things to better understand what they saw. And could take the stigma away from reporting sightings.

I have seen a number of UFOs, unidentified and strange to me. Never suspected they were from extraterrestrial intelligence though.
 
Isn't it interesting how some of us assume that because terrans haven't solved the distance, speed problems involved no other species could either. Similar to how we project our attitudes toward others onto them.

Most generals assume they'll want to conquer, the insatiably curious think they'll want to study us, and those disappointed in humanities level of development (in psycho-social ways) hope they'll want to save us. To all i say, be careful what you expect, you might manifest it.
We homo sapiens are a very arrogant lot. We think that everything is about us. Given your list of possibilities @feywon, I would add that perhaps they have no interest in us, or maybe don't even notice us. If they are millions of years ahead of us on the evolutionary tree (as which point they would most likely be non-biological entities), their motives and intentions could be well beyond our feeble understanding of reality.
 
We homo sapiens are a very arrogant lot. We think that everything is about us. Given your list of possibilities @feywon, I would add that perhaps they have no interest in us, or maybe don't even notice us. If they are millions of years ahead of us on the evolutionary tree (as which point they would most likely be non-biological entities), their motives and intentions could be well beyond our feeble understanding of reality.
Exactly. We may be beneath their consideration until/unless we make a nuisace of ourselves. I always liked Neil DeGrasse Tyson's take on that posibility. I swear that man could have been my favorite kind of comedian: Intelligent and observant , whose humor is rooted in truth.
 
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A few years ago when the UAP/UFO phenomenon came into the main stream with the USN video footage I and many others wondered if we were being prepped for disclosure.
IF the UFOs people have been reporting, the same people that have been painted as loonies, mostly by our military, if those UFOs have actually been secret experimental military technology all along, and we are being prepped now for disclosure, then it would mean that the military is ready to use that secret technology.
 
I had visual contact with a UFO over the Mediterranean in 1992. It never showed up on radar and when I took pictures of it, nothing developed on the digital hard drive. I was told that it was my imagination. Today, we have more sophisticated visual technology and are getting pictures. They are just unidentifiable.
When I flew at night, I would see something in the sky that was unrecognizable from time to time. I never reported any of it for the reason you mentioned. No one would believe me. One night the first officer and I were just beginning our decent into Denver. There was a light in the sky in front of us that would switch from being white to blue. We both noticed that it was coming closer and we asked the traffic controller if she was seeing anything on radar within 10 miles of us. She said no and the weather is clear. I asked her to please look very closely again and again she said no. As we continued our descent, this light suddenly took off in a hurry and was out of sight in just seconds. We looked at one another and shrugged our shoulders and never mentioned it.
 
IF the UFOs people have been reporting, the same people that have been painted as loonies, mostly by our military, if those UFOs have actually been secret experimental military technology all along, and we are being prepped now for disclosure, then it would mean that the military is ready to use that secret technology.
Good point. I too believe that there is a good chance that the UAP's might very well be experimental military technology. As humans we have the tendency to think that things we do not know about fit into parameters of things we do know about and are familiar to us. If they do exist other worldly beings and or their technology do not have to fit into those parameters and probably do not.
 
Isn't it interesting how some of us assume that because terrans haven't solved the distance, speed problems involved no other species could either. Similar to how we project our attitudes toward others onto them.

Most generals assume they'll want to conquer, the insatiably curious think they'll want to study us, and those disappointed in humanities level of development (in psycho-social ways) hope they'll want to save us. To all i say, be careful what you expect, you might manifest it.
"Isn't it interesting how some of us assume that because terrans haven't solved the distance, speed problems involved no other species could either." Exactly Feywon! I've been saying the same thing for years. Imagine our advances in medicine and what doctors from 100 years ago would think of them. I'm sure we're doing things today they never dreamed of. If we are indeed a "younger" planet, there could likely be beings out there far more intelligent and with much more highly advanced technology that our most brilliant scientists couldn't even imagine (yet).

@Alligatorob @fuzzybuddy if you get a chance watch the YouTube videos I posted (post #6) in which several reputable pilots and military personnel who certainly know "phenomena" from solid crafts told of their experiences.
 

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