Sharing a concern about Ring doorbells..

-Oy- said:
I don't get it.

Your car is GONE. They have no more evidence than if a friend had a spare key and has driven it off.
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oh well ask a copper if you ever discover one of those rare birds before they become extinct.....and if you do... take a photo for historic purposes, cuz the young of the future will never believe they existed
 

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hollydolly said:
The story of the ringbell was on the London Neighbourhood app.. where there's crime happening every second of the day..
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I'd never dismiss the anxiety, adversity... and the dismay of victimized individuals or families. At the same time, one crime (is it property crime?) every second of the day is, unfortunately, understandable in a city of 9million people. Understandable but, of course, it can make a one-time-visitor like me kind of sad.šŸ™

Transposing that frequency, in relation to London's population, to my little valley in the mountains (6000 residents), would have an approximate figure working out to one crime in slightly less than every three days. In a sense, the frequency would have been much higher back in the day when hundreds of households here were making a living by growing marijuana, which technically meant many individual residents were criminals 24/7 ! That whole situation was drastically altered by the Canadian government legalizing possession (by adults) of limited amounts of cannabis, and also regulating production and distribution.

Of course, living in or near London, you have the advantages of superlative cultural, entertainment, and sport-event opportunities, fine restaurants, cafĆ©s, shopping options, much wonderful historic architecture, and more.šŸ™‚
 
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JBR said:
I'd never dismiss the anxiety, adversity... and the dismay of victimized individuals or families. At the same time, one crime (is it property crime?) every second of the day is, unfortunately, understandable in a city of 9million people. Understandable but, of course, it can make a one-time-visitor like me kind of sad.šŸ™

Transposing that frequency, in relation to London's population, to my little valley in the mountains (6000 residents), would have an approximate figure working out to one crime in slightly less than every three days. In a sense, the frequency would have been much higher back in the day when hundreds of households here were making a living by growing marijuana, which technically meant many individual residents were criminals 24/7 ! That whole situation was drastically altered by the Canadian government legalizing possession (by adults) of limited amounts cannabis, and also regulating production and distribution.

Of course, living in or near London, you have the advantages of superlative cultural, entertainment, and sport-event opportunities, fine restaurants, cafĆ©s, shopping options, much wonderful historic architecture, and more.šŸ™‚
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well the crime where I live in a village of only 1000 people is verrrry low.... but of course being just 20 miles from the centre of London, we get all the London news ...and on the neighbourhood app..which is not directly related to us here, we get to see the extent of the crime through the eye of other people's security cameras...in various London areas..
 
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-Oy- said:
Key code capture things etc. One thing I wonder about is... you wake up in the morning and your car is gone. How do you know how they did it?
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Video cameras have caught thieves with the radar type gizmos that pick up key fob signals, then boost them to open and start the.

That's why keeping fobs in Faraday boxes or in the center of the house helps thwart this crime.
 
Good things to know from above postersšŸ‘šŸ‘

Why I like living in a rural area.

I have good sized dogs that bark and tear the curtains off the window when the pest control guy is trying to spray.

If needed, barking dogs give me time to fetch my brothers Smith & Wesson, as my farm is completely fenced and thereā€™s a locked gate near the end of the drive. Nobody ā€œaccidentallyā€ sets foot on this property; they have to climb over or thru something.

Nobody wants my 22 year old car and if they did, the stupids canā€™t drive it because nobody these days knows how to drive standard shift:)

Bonus points for one the countyā€™s deputy sheriffā€™s living 1,000 feet thru the woods and he does keep on eye on the goings on around herešŸ¤ šŸ¤ 
 
Imogene said:
Good things to know from above postersšŸ‘šŸ‘

Why I like living in a rural area.

I have good sized dogs that bark and tear the curtains off the window when the pest control guy is trying to spray.

If needed, barking dogs give me time to fetch my brothers Smith & Wesson, as my farm is completely fenced and thereā€™s a locked gate near the end of the drive. Nobody ā€œaccidentallyā€ sets foot on this property; they have to climb over or thru something.

Nobody wants my 22 year old car and if they did, the stupids canā€™t drive it because nobody these days knows how to drive standard shift:)

Bonus points for one the countyā€™s deputy sheriffā€™s living 1,000 feet thru the woods and he does keep on eye on the goings on around herešŸ¤ šŸ¤ 
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Good thing you don't lve in the UK or anywhere in Europe because the vast majority of us drive manual cars...:ROFLMAO:
 
hollydolly said:
I have 2 ring doorbells, and I know some of you here have them too, and might be interested in this story from our neighburhood app..

Our property was recently broken into, and the burglars used a portable Wi-Fi jamming device to disable our Ring doorbell camera.
This meant the camera was unable to detect any movement or capture footage outside, making it completely ineffective during the break-in.

Iā€™m sharing this to alert you all to the vulnerabilities these devices may have. If youā€™re relying on a Ring doorbell or similar Wi-Fi-based security devices, itā€™s worth considering additional security measures, like wired systems or alternative monitoring that doesnā€™t depend on Wi-Fi alone.
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It's a dangerous world we live in. The Third World is upon us.
 
hollydolly said:
Good thing you don't lve in the UK or anywhere in Europe because the vast majority of us drive manual cars...:ROFLMAO:
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Iā€™ve driven standard shift since I was a kid on the farm. Itā€˜s made the news once or twice about someone trying to steal an older car, but they had to leave it because it had a clutch in it and they couldnā€™t figure out how to drive itšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
 
JustDave said:
Really? I thought a Faraday box would solve the problem. I don't own one, and I've considered buying one, although where I live, I haven't felt the need to lock doors or take dramatic actions. My sister who lives in Chicago can lock up her house so that even the Fire Department couldn't get in. I don't want to live like that, but nowhere is completely safe.
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I read quite some time ago that manufacturers of those keys downloaded a security program on them that blocks the frequencies of all known theft devices. And if I remember right, the devices were limited to only 2 frequencies that would successfully bypass the key, so the situation wasn't as dire as auto manufacturers first thought.
 
Imogene said:
Iā€™ve driven standard shift since I was a kid on the farm. Itā€˜s made the news once or twice about someone trying to steal an older car, but they had to leave it because it had a clutch in it and they couldnā€™t figure out how to drive itšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
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Since I first learned to drive, I'd driven only manual-trans vehicles. A decade ago, I had an 13-year-old old pickup that I finally needed to replace. I like to buy reconditioned used vehicles from car lots that sell them, and I like to buy within my region as I've had better luck with warrantied service that way. I bought another truck, and had to settle for one with an automatic tranny.

For weeks, if not longer, I'd catch myself wanting to depress a clutch pedal and move the shift stick.šŸ™„šŸ¤
 
Quite a few "entry cams" can store triggered recordings locally, much like a dash cam. So network connectivity isn't required to capture video since it doesn't get stored "in the cloud." That can also save you the monthly service fee that many require.

These can usually be viewed via WiFi later, but by then jammers and such are gone.
 
JustDave said:
Really? I thought a Faraday box would solve the problem. I don't own one, and I've considered buying one, although where I live, I haven't felt the need to lock doors or take dramatic actions. My sister who lives in Chicago can lock up her house so that even the Fire Department couldn't get in. I don't want to live like that, but nowhere is completely safe.
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The whole point is that the fob is shielded so no radio signals get in or go out.

I think some fobs can be "read" or cloned remotely. I know others can be triggered remotely to send the codes themselves, with the fob in the middle of the process.

Faraday cage enclosures foil both of these.

However if the car accepts generic "locksmith" master codes or something, yeah you'd be screwed. Most models don't do that. However there may be databases where fob codes can be looked up by VIN and used to program another fob.
 
I'm constantly amazed at what the scum of the world will come up with to rob people.

I don't know if there is anyway around this?

I have 3 chipped cards and although my wallet is supposed to be RFID protected, I got some protection cards off Amazon to put in front of them in my wallet
 
Anyone else follow Paul Hibbert's reviews of smart home tech?

He's a funny guy (or thinks he is) but he does cover a lot of these doodads. This doorbell/cam stores locally, saving you most of the risk of others getting your video.


Yeah, he's a bit of a goon. But that's part of the fun.
 
dilettante said:
Anyone else follow Paul Hibbert's reviews of smart home tech?

He's a funny guy (or thinks he is) but he does cover a lot of these doodads. This doorbell/cam stores locally, saving you most of the risk of others getting your video.


Yeah, he's a bit of a goon. But that's part of the fun.
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another t*t..selling something....
 
Cars now being sold have a tracking feature. If your car is stolen, you can make a call (to something like onstar.) they can locate your car, disable it, and notify the police.

I had a guy come walking up my driveway one time. He got halfway up to the house when he saw my camera and stopped. He then turned around and left. So I believe there's some value in having security cameras.
 
HazyDavey said:
Cars now being sold have a tracking feature. If your car is stolen, you can make a call (to something like onstar.) they can locate your car, disable it, and notify the police.

I had a guy come walking up my driveway one time. He got halfway up to the house when he saw my camera and stopped. He then turned around and left. So I believe there's some value in having security cameras.
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...and yet almost every day on our neighbourhood app... for the greater London area..., people post videos taken from their security cameras, of thieves stealing high end cars from the driveways... they can see the cameras, they don't care.. chances of being caught are next to nill...the police are no longer interested.. and when they're not interested , it means insurance premiums go sky high, which they are now, and going up again very soon...
One guy managed to trace his car and within 3 days it was in China....
 
hollydolly said:
...and yet almost every day on our neighbourhood app... for the greater London area..., people post videos taken from their security cameras, of thieves stealing high end cars from the driveways... they can see the cameras, they don't care.. chances of being caught are next to nill...the police are no longer interested.. and when they're not interested , it means insurance premiums go sky high, which they are now, and going up again very soon...
One guy managed to trace his car and within 3 days it was in China....
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Thieves will leave a stolen vehicle parked somewhere, then come back in a day or two to see if it's been tracked. If not, they will then take it and it'll likely be shipped overseas somewhere.

Cameras are not a full proof deterrent. But I believe they can persuade the offender to look for an easier target.
 


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