Why is so many people dying?

It is true, and the only new thing is likely Covid. However not all increased death is directly related to Covid. Here is an interesting paper discussing the issue: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778361 To quote a key part:

The 22.9% increase in all-cause mortality reported here far exceeds annual increases observed in recent years (≤2.5%). The percentage of excess deaths among non Hispanic Black individuals (16.9%) exceeded their share of the US population (12.5%),5 reflecting racial disparities in COVID-19 mortality. Excess deaths surged in the east in April, followed by extended summer and early winter surges concentrated in southern and western states, respectively. Many of these states weakly embraced, or discouraged, pandemic control measures and lifted restrictions earlier than other states.

Excess deaths not attributed to COVID-19 could reflect either immediate or delayed mortality from undocumented COVID-19 infection, or non–COVID-19 deaths secondary to the pandemic, such as from delayed care or behavioral health crises. Death rates from several non–COVID-19 diseases (eg, heart disease, Alzheimer disease) increased during surges. The model does not adjust directly for population aging, which could contribute to an overestimate of excess deaths. Other study limitations include reliance on provisional data, inaccurate death certificates, and modeling assumptions.
 

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While the average life span has dropped down a bit in the age of COVID, it helps to keep things in a historical perspective. In the early 20th century, a guy was lucky to make it beyond his 40’s. The life spans that people today routinely enjoy were rare back then...
 
Fyrefox said:
In the early 20th century, a guy was lucky to make it beyond his 40’s.
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It is true that the "life expectancy at birth" in the US was about 47 in 1900 and is now well into our 70s. However this is a little misleading, much of the improvement has come as the result of decreased infant mortality. If you made it to the age of 21 in 1900 you could have expected to live a lot longer than age 47, but not so long as today.
 
There’s lots more people dying , because, they stopped treating cancer patients, since this covid..😡
And with drs not in surgery now, and only taking phonecalls.......they are just prescribing anything for people.....
I’ve had 3 calls from drs, about my husbands illness s....and everything he prescribed made him worse....Thankgod , I have common sense, to stop the meds .....😡😡
 
Had a friend of mine killed herself with a gun. It was caused from medical problems and family wouldn't help her. Her only child had no time for her. She was in her 60's or 70's. This happened in 1980's. I was the only one that would take her too her doctor appointments and me and her would go on trips to see family and friends. She just got tired of living.
 
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Robert59 said:
I've lost 2 friend that was 42 and lost lots of family that died in their 50 and 70's. Everyday in my local paper I count lots of people dying in their 50's and 60's. I'm just glad to be alive.
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Sorry you've lost so many friends and family so young Robert, How did your 40 something friends die ?
 
I'm going out on a limb here but maybe it has something to do with more people being alive? Maybe it's Nature's way of slowing us down since we seem unwilling or unable to do so on our own? Ask an expert. There's no shortage of them here.
 
Gary O' said:

Why is so many people dying?​


Because.......there's so many people

(nobody gets out alive)

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Sorry Gary, I didn't see your reply up top there. And you, you're the wisest and one of the most sensible voices I've seen here but too many others make claims to knowledge that they don't truly have. Once again the Gary O' (is that O' for O'racle?)speaks the truth! (y)
 
It's a rather gruesome thing to do I suppose but there is a medical examiners office in a large city nearby that has digitalized their death records and has them on their website. I'm interested due to my work history and I look at them occasionally. The cause of death is usually given unless it is pending toxicology results. It seems that the most often mentioned are Drug Overdoses, Cardiovascular Disease, Ethanol abuse, Motor Vehicle Accidents, and Suicide.

Covid complications are not mentioned near as often as they were last year. Of interest to me since I am "of age" is there are a large number of older people whose cause of death is related to falls (fractures, hemorrhages, etc.).
 
Chris P Bacon said:
I'm going out on a limb here but maybe it has something to do with more people being alive? Maybe it's Nature's way of slowing us down since we seem unwilling or unable to do so on our own? Ask an expert. There's no shortage of them here.
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Very true Chris........this is why covid came into our lives, to kill us off
Just like the dinosaurs .........human beings will be extinct very soon.....😳😳
 
charry said:
Very true Chris........this is why covid came into our lives, to kill us off
Just like the dinosaurs .........human beings will be extinct very soon.....😳😳
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Whoa, Nelly! Now hold on a, I say now hold a second there Missy! How about pumping the brakes just a little and let's take this a little slower. Covid came into being because that's what stuff does that hangs out on the earth. It comingles with other stuff and turns into other things. Sometimes they're good things, sometimes, not so much but I don't think that Covid knows or has plans to "kill us off". It's a virus without a brain. It doesn't know us from beans.

And it's possible that we could be extinct "very soon" I guess, geologically speaking but it wasn't a virus that killed the dinosaurs and some people "know" that dinosaurs didn't exist, just as convaxxers "know" that the vaccines available are whatever they think they are. Some people just don't like to believe what is so obvious to others. But I think that somehow, human beings, mostly, if not all of them, provaxxers, will live for a while yet. Not as many humans overall but that's not bad.

When I was born the earth only had to support around 2 billion people. In the 66 years that I've been hanging around, that population has increased to near or maybe even over, I didn't look, but it's near 8 billion or four times as many. (Did the math for those who can't or won't) It's just MY OPINION. Too many people, in too small of a "home". I'm not an authority but I see things and I evaluate what they might mean TO ME. Covid or no, nature doesn't need us but we do rely quite a bit on nature, so what she says goes. Right now Covid is a part of nature in that it permeates our natural surroundings and our efforts to control nature or, in this case Covid, are falling short.

We could use a few more player on the team to help solve the problem but recruiting them is not so easy. Too many so called "experts" have poisoned the wells from which they drink and they, in turn, infect others with their faulty logic. Don't worry, nature will ALWAYS be here, we will not. No matter if it's Covid that kills us, bad vaccines, or just suffocation from having one's head stuck where it shouldn't have been, for so long. But I do think that it's selfish of someone so advanced in age to give their next 5-10-15 years of probably not a great quality of life precedence over helping to save potentially hundreds of lives whose years would add up into many more useful and productive years. That's even if these convaxxers suffered any consequence at all from being vaccinated which I'm convinced they would not and which they may forever remain unconvinced that preventing the spread of the virus to the many is a better, wiser path to choose than choosing to stay on their own narrow path with their blinders on so that they don't see the full picture.

The sky isn't falling but if it begins to, some people still won't believe it. Some people only see what they want to see and believe only what they want to believe and hide behind the statement that it is their "right" to do so. And for now, unfortunately, it is indeed their "right". Just as it's the right of the government to take your house because they want to build a new road or something else to benefit the many instead of just you. I hope that some sort of legislation is worked out to address some of these things because on our own, typing on the internet, squabbling like children, I don't think that we can get the job done. Stay tuned!

PS I think that you live in the UK so some of this "rights" stuff may not apply to you but people not believing or seeing the obvious is a pretty universal thing so I hope that you can read this as I intended it to be seen and not necessarily literally so. I'm just a concerned citizen of the world, not a professional essayist. But I also am provaxx.
 
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