No room at the hospital
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Shero
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Maybe you have use for food win? soon the markets, banks, all commercial places will be cutting you out!
Wishful thinking, but you're mistaken.
Vaccine proof was recently approved for bars & clubs & outdoor events that have over 10,000 people.
Markets were specifically excluded.
And, without vaccine proof, a negative Covid test is OK. If I really wanted to go to those other places, a nose swab is silly, but fine with me. And those tests are free.
Irwin
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Anti-vaxxers/anti-maskers are getting as bad as abortion protesters
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2021/...ndate-protest-parents-students-newday-vpx.cnn
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2021/...ndate-protest-parents-students-newday-vpx.cnn
"even the high school drop outs, who had the lowest vaccination rate, are finally getting vaxxed at a significant rate. Still behind the educated folks,"
Wow I didn't realize that when a person gets vaccinated they had to show proof of their education level, because that's the only way any agency would have correct data to know the numbers of educated vs uneducated.
I'm still trying to figure out how when a person orders most everything online and does their banking online, how are they soon going to be cut out????
We can only dream of some day being as educated as some here."even the high school drop outs, who had the lowest vaccination rate, are finally getting vaxxed at a significant rate. Still behind the educated folks,"
Wow I didn't realize that when a person gets vaccinated they had to show proof of their education level, because that's the only way any agency would have correct data to know the numbers of educated vs uneducated.
Packerjohn
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About 2,000 years ago they told Joseph and Mary that there was "no room at the inn." Two thousand years later we are being told that "there is no room in the hospital." Hmmm! Some things just don't change. Perhaps we need to start building stables?
Buckeye
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Well, you finally made a statement I can agree with.We can only dream of some day being as educated as some here.
mellowyellow
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It took a long time, but NSW has finally reached 70 per cent fully vaxxed and when we reach 80 per cent (very soon) things will be even better. Soon we will be able to fly to America for a holiday but not the Gold Coast in the state of Queensland because their Premier took a different strategy. She currently has zero cases of covid and is still defiantly shutting the border to the rest of the country. Needless to say, as the holiday state and with the holiday season approaching, many business owners are furious while others are going, or have already gone, broke.
So hey, from next Monday, the 11 October 2021, eased restrictions will allow those who are fully vaccinated to have:
So hey, from next Monday, the 11 October 2021, eased restrictions will allow those who are fully vaccinated to have:
- 10-visitor limit in your home
- access Gyms, indoor recreation and sporting facilities
- group bookings of up to 20 people in hospitality settings.
Buckeye
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lol - maybe you should talk to these folks."even the high school drop outs, who had the lowest vaccination rate, are finally getting vaxxed at a significant rate. Still behind the educated folks,"
Wow I didn't realize that when a person gets vaccinated they had to show proof of their education level, because that's the only way any agency would have correct data to know the numbers of educated vs uneducated.
Vaccination rates by education level
LOL maybe you should read what "these folks" wrote.
To begin with this "survey" had a low response of participants so those percentage numbers sound real good until you realize the small number of responses
And then there is this.
"Notes about the Household Pulse Survey Data
The estimated rates presented in this post were pulled from the HPS COVID-19 Vaccination Tracker published by the Census Bureau. Though these counts are accompanied by standard errors, standard errors are not able to be accurately calculated for rate estimates. Therefore, we are not able to determine if the differences we found in our analysis are statistically significant or if the estimates themselves are statistically reliable. Estimates and differences for subpopulations at the state level should be assumed to have large confidence intervals around them and caution should be taken when drawing strong conclusions from this analysis. However, the fact that these indications of COVID-19 inequities mirror patterns of other vaccinations inequities demonstrate reason for concern.
Though produced by the U.S. Census Bureau, the HPS is considered an “experimental” survey and does not necessarily meet the Census Bureau’s high standards for data quality and statistical reliability. For example, the survey has relatively low response rates (6.4% for June 9-21), and sampled individuals are contacted via email and text message, asking them to complete an internet-based survey. These issues in particular could be potential sources of bias, but come with the tradeoffs of increased speed and flexibility in data collection as well as lower costs. A future post will investigate differences between COVID-19 vaccination rates estimated from survey data (such as the HPS) and administrative sources. The estimates presented this post are based on responses from 68,067 adults. More information about the data and methods for the Household Pulse Survey can be found in a previous SHADAC blog post."
terry123
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Two weeks ago I had an accident at home and required xrays. I called 911 and as they loaded me into the ambulance they were checking with Hospitals to see where they could take me. I wanted to go to Clear Lake Regional Medical Center as I have been there before. Their ER was filled so they took me to Methodist Clear Lake as they had room in the ER for me. The two EMT"s told me they were having it rough finding Hospitals to take patients due to the number of Covid patients in the Hospitals in my area.
Buckeye
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I read all that and it does not disprove the results. Also, a number of other studies have shown the same thing. Use your googleizer to search "education levels and vaccination rates". The one I linked to was just the first one on the list.
I do have to wonder why this information bothers you so much.
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It's pretty obvious why, Buckeye. Nothing like being backed into an increasingly smaller corner of denial, false information, and total nonsense to make a person get bothered. 
They're bothered because deep down they know the surveys are telling us the truth. They just don't like the results. Sort of like loudly disputing election results, even if the election was fair.
The anti-vaxxers may actually get away with it, riding on the coattails of those who did use basic sanity and got the vaccine, as we may be nearing herd immunity. (Unless a new, even worse variant comes along.)
But how tragic for those with other life-threatening illnesses who can't get into the hospital because a bunch of stubborn ignoramuses are taking up all the beds. All this to avoid a couple of harmless little shots.
They're bothered because deep down they know the surveys are telling us the truth. They just don't like the results. Sort of like loudly disputing election results, even if the election was fair.
The anti-vaxxers may actually get away with it, riding on the coattails of those who did use basic sanity and got the vaccine, as we may be nearing herd immunity. (Unless a new, even worse variant comes along.)
But how tragic for those with other life-threatening illnesses who can't get into the hospital because a bunch of stubborn ignoramuses are taking up all the beds. All this to avoid a couple of harmless little shots.
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Don M.
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One of our granddaughters is a nurse at a smaller rural hospital, and even there the doctors/nurses are working overtime trying to keep up with Covid patients being brought in from larger swamped hospitals. She said that about the only "elective" treatments that aren't facing delays are in the pediatric ward.
Ignoramus: A non-thinking programmed robot with an undersized brain that soaks up everything offered to it. Example ^^^^It's pretty obvious why, Buckeye. Nothing like being backed into an increasingly smaller corner of denial, false information, and total nonsense to make a person get bothered.
They're bothered because deep down they know the surveys are telling us the truth. They just don't like the results. Sort of like loudly disputing election results, even if the election was fair.
The anti-vaxxers may actually get away with it, riding on the coattails of those who did use basic sanity and got the vaccine, as we may be nearing herd immunity. (Unless a new, even worse variant comes along.)
But how tragic for those with other life-threatening illnesses who can't get into the hospital because a bunch of stubborn ignoramuses are taking up all the beds. All this to avoid a couple of harmless little shots.
It didn't prove it either.
What bothers me is assuming a lesser education equates to ignorance. Which is not always true.
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You really can't help yourself can you? "Ignoramus" your comments always have some name calling included.It's pretty obvious why, Buckeye. Nothing like being backed into an increasingly smaller corner of denial, false information, and total nonsense to make a person get bothered.
They're bothered because deep down they know the surveys are telling us the truth. They just don't like the results. Sort of like loudly disputing election results, even if the election was fair.
The anti-vaxxers may actually get away with it, riding on the coattails of those who did use basic sanity and got the vaccine, as we may be nearing herd immunity. (Unless a new, even worse variant comes along.)
But how tragic for those with other life-threatening illnesses who can't get into the hospital because a bunch of stubborn ignoramuses are taking up all the beds. All this to avoid a couple of harmless little shots.
NAME CALLING: HOW TOXIC PEOPLE USE IT AS AN EMOTIONAL WEAPON
Here are the 4 reasons I discovered why people call other people nasty names:
#1 – TO DISTRACT FROM THE MAIN ISSUE
If you don’t have a solid argument to back up your opinions, you might revert to insults in order to throw the other person off their game. Call them a few names and they might get distracted enough to forget what they were talking about and focus on your irrelevant comments instead.#2 – TO MAKE THEMSELVES FEEL BETTER
If you hate yourself and are looking for a quick way to feel better, throw a couple of insults at other people. Typically, in this case, you would throw the sort of insult at them that you feel about yourself.The problem with this is that while you may get a quick high from insulting someone, you’ll still feel bad about yourself. It only shifts your focus for a little bit and then you’ll be back to hating yourself again.
#3 – TO LOOK COOL
Need a quick way to make friends, insult someone else to look cool, fit in, and build camaraderie. The only problem with this one is that you’re building an unhealthy relationship on a very shaky foundation.And, when you least expect it, someone else could do the same to you.
#4 – FOR FUN
Bored? Need some entertainment? Sometimes people call other people names simply because they want something to do or they get pleasure out of the reaction their insults cause. Some people might call this “pushing your buttons.”Consider the people who are calling you these names. Are they even worth your time? Probably not.
http://www.groundedgirlsguide.com/toxic-people/2016/10/20/name-calling-emotional-weapon/
AND ALL put-down artists have low self esteem. That's the only way they know to raise it.
No place to read. It's all about the Drs & nurses that take care of me. We have good talks when I'm in their offices. Some swear by the vaccine. Others are saying it's made too fast & has major side effects that they have seen by people like me coming in with major problems. I've been in Dr's offices about twice a week ever since I was discharged from the hospital With what THEY THOUGHT was Conav-19, but all blood tests & nasal swabs come back negative.
My one pulmonary Dr. is telling me in the papers & medical reports he reads that This vaccine was pushed out too fast by the government so the big pharmaceuticals could make big bucks. He said he is not getting the shots. He told me if I went google the Pandemic of 1913 & see how long it took them to get over it without any vaccines. Sure a lot of people died. Also, look up the polio vaccine timetable. He went on more but I don't want to make this a long post.
One thing he's keeping me alive.
Buckeye
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I think you mean the 1918 "Spanish Flu" pandemic. While the estimates of deaths vary widely, 25 million to 50 million is considered to be a good approximation.
2 of those deaths were my grandfather's first wife and their child.
How many deaths from Covid do you consider acceptable? 4.55 million not enough?
StarSong
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Thought I'd check in on a Corona virus thread. As expected the usual suspects continue to align in the usual way.
I'm arranging an outdoor baby shower for my son, his wife and my upcoming grandchild. The invitation clearly states:
"We hope you understand that ALL adults attending must be fully vaccinated."
My niece, her husband and their 17 year old son RSVP-ed yes, then reread the invitation and realized she'd missed that sentence. They're unvaccinated. When she texted me with her changed RSVP, I said we'd miss her family. And we will.
All choices have consequences.
And the beat goes on...
I'm arranging an outdoor baby shower for my son, his wife and my upcoming grandchild. The invitation clearly states:
"We hope you understand that ALL adults attending must be fully vaccinated."
My niece, her husband and their 17 year old son RSVP-ed yes, then reread the invitation and realized she'd missed that sentence. They're unvaccinated. When she texted me with her changed RSVP, I said we'd miss her family. And we will.
All choices have consequences.
And the beat goes on...
Well, at least they tried to protect you from "Conav-19", but were they smart enough to test for COVID-19 or COVFEFE-19? If that's true about your doctor, then it's either just his opinion and he's a conspiracy nutter, or he's just humoring you when you visit.
He may or may not be keeping you alive. You'd be better served by a doctor who is smart and responsible enough to get vaccinated against a deadly virus before visiting with patients who are in poor health.