Against the vaccine? What about polio?

Okay l looked it up. Elon Musk means nothing to me. One day he probably will but as much as possible l'll leave it at that.
I understand why l had to see the picture.
 

January said:
"This is purposely designed to obfuscate the public’s understanding
of what causes paralysis, which is heavy metal poisoning plus vaccine induced autoimmunity that ends with the
body attacking and destroying its’ own nervous system pathways, in an rabid attempt to clean itself of the injected toxins."


Except polio existed way before the discovery of vaccines - so rather impossible for the paralysis to be from injected toxins But thanks for illustrating my point about anti vaxxers.
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Who are you quoting?
 
John cycling said:
You missed the part about heavy metal toxicity, and the poisonous injections certainly existed long before 1956.
The condition of polio, if not the name, was around long before the time of the charlatan Pasteur, as were heavy metals,
poisonous drugs, and toxic pollution.

This was already pointed out to you in a previous thread in which you stated that swimming pools could cause polio,
completely ignorant of the fact that lead from lead in water pipes was the cause of the condition, not the swimming pools.

The constant willful ignorance and bias of people who work for the toxic pharma corporations is quite predictable.
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Of course injections existed before 1956.

Polio itself has been around since time immemorial - long before any pollution or heavy metals or medications as we know them

and no, I did not ever say swimming pools could cause polio - I said anywhere that people congregate in close proximity and the possibility of faecal/oral transmission occurs (ie in swimming pools) is likely to be a source of spread.

yes, people who work in health care are likely to promote health recomendations.

I do not work for any pharmaceutical companies however.
 
Inept said:
Do his words convey that vaccine induced autoimmunity has always been the case or only is now - as an additional cause?
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so you accept the general cause as being a virus spread by faecal/oral route?

His words convey that he does not - his stated causes are vaccine induced immunity and heavy metals.
 
I know you made no such statement - that is why I asked you the question.

the second sentence is not a question - it is what his words conveyed. In answer to your question of what they conveyed.
 
January said:
I know you made no such statement - that is why I asked you the question.
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I didn't answer because I haven't made up my mind.
January said:
the second sentence is not a question - it is what his words conveyed. In answer to your question of what they conveyed.
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Conveyed to you but not to me. It's the same old argument such as if "not believing in God" is the same as "disbelieving in God".
 
Debrah N. said:
I didn't move to another issue, just mentioned that what you said can be said about lots of things. And I never said active people who ate right, didn't fare better when it comes to covid. Never. So please stop the spin. What I find amusing is Tazx's insistence that being asymptomatic isn't a thing and that's what justifies his not getting vaccinated. Diseases like typhoid, HIV, C. difficile, influenzas, cholera and covid.
From the link: Asymptomatic carriage isn’t something that happens with all diseases, but it does happen with COVID-19. And it happens quite a bit. Dr. Dumford says it’s one of the reasons the virus proved impossible to contain — and why it transitioned from an isolated outbreak to a global pandemic so quickly. What Is Asymptomatic COVID-19 and Are You Contagious?

So, agenda based? ....that would be you guys because you are swimming against the stream of medical science.
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Well, I only said what the medical books have said, and as I posted -Yale medical-. As a fellow Canadian I am confused...you believe Dr Dumford, but not Yale medical. And...only Covid 19 is one hey? I'm sure.
So...how in countries that never used masks, sanitizer, register shields and so on, fared better than Canada? Leave aside that the economy kept going, schools were open, no one lost jobs cause of a vax mandate...but the illness and death were lower. How do you explain that?

Your blind belief in complete fabrication astounds me. Even with all the evidence coming out every day, you still believe.
 
January said:
except she isnt wrong at all - despite your claims of superior study reading skills
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I would say boy howdy do anti vaxxers fit into category of people who will not admit they are wrong - even to extent of not admitting Covid is real or any viruses at all are real or asymptomatic carriers are real.
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First, why are people that question things anti-(whatever)? Can people who question things be called researchers? We look at something, research it, if we don't like what we found, we don't eat it, take it, use it etc. Such a derogatory term for people who THINK!!!

Go online, pick a vaccine, any vaccine and look at the excipients. Then tell me they are safe. Go ahead, I'll wait here..........
Hmmm, formaldehyde, Aluminum, mercury, sodium chloride, and the list goes on. Pick a vaccine, please...any one....the CDC vaccine excipient list is catastrophic. All the ingredients I just listed are toxic to humans. Aluminum and mercury are neurotoxic in nano and micro gram doses, but ok in vaccines? Formaldehyde? Really? Sodium Chloride...do you know what that is used for? Lets just say it kills people in really low doses, and has a massive reaction rate to certain medicines.

So if you think putting these things directly into your body is normal, then continue if you like, but don't even try to tell me they are safe. And those ingredients are just a few of the 50 plus in vaccines.
 
oh right, anti vaxxers are the ones who think and do research :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Yes I will certainly continue having relevant vaccines

and you can continue scare tactics about things like sodium chloride

You do know that is just in plain english - salt? but hey sodium chloride sure sounds scary
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Tazx said:
Well, I only said what the medical books have said, and as I posted -Yale medical-. As a fellow Canadian I am confused...you believe Dr Dumford, but not Yale medical. And...only Covid 19 is one hey? I'm sure.
So...how in countries that never used masks, sanitizer, register shields and so on, fared better than Canada? Leave aside that the economy kept going, schools were open, no one lost jobs cause of a vax mandate...but the illness and death were lower. How do you explain that?

Your blind belief in complete fabrication astounds me. Even with all the evidence coming out every day, you still believe.
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Using facts (as you've just done) is confusing her.
 
Tazx said:
Well, I only said what the medical books have said, and as I posted -Yale medical-. As a fellow Canadian I am confused...you believe Dr Dumford, but not Yale medical. And...only Covid 19 is one hey? I'm sure.
So...how in countries that never used masks, sanitizer, register shields and so on, fared better than Canada? Leave aside that the economy kept going, schools were open, no one lost jobs cause of a vax mandate...but the illness and death were lower. How do you explain that?

Your blind belief in complete fabrication astounds me. Even with all the evidence coming out every day, you still believe.
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If you're talking about Sweden, they didn't do well. They had deaths too. And after reading a couple articles on it, I suspect the reason they didn't do worse is that apparently, the population embraced social distancing and being careful of their surroundings. You can read this one and maybe you'll come to the same conclusion....
https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/sweden-during-pandemic#excess-deaths.
Another one here:
https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/sweden-during-pandemic#swedens-strategy

On the other hand, I live in a province where the population made multiple efforts to flout most of the recommendations and there were a lot of Canadians in other provinces who likewise had no interest in following any of the recommendations on safety. You for example.

One paragraph in one of the linked articles read thusly:
………..Perhaps social distancing comes naturally to introverted Swedes, so that we don’t have to be compelled to engage in it. A joke that made the rounds was that “Finally no more 2‑meter rule, now Swedes can go back to the usual 5‑meter distance.” But fellow Scandinavian introverts in Denmark and Norway chose lockdowns (albeit not as prolonged as those in the rest of Europe and the United States). ………………. Another explanation is that a society with a high level of social trust might rely on voluntary behavioral changes instead of resorting to mandatory ones.
 
Tazx said:
Well, I only said what the medical books have said, and as I posted -Yale medical-. As a fellow Canadian I am confused...you believe Dr Dumford, but not Yale medical. And...only Covid 19 is one hey? I'm sure.
So...how in countries that never used masks, sanitizer, register shields and so on, fared better than Canada? Leave aside that the economy kept going, schools were open, no one lost jobs cause of a vax mandate...but the illness and death were lower. How do you explain that?

Your blind belief in complete fabrication astounds me. Even with all the evidence coming out every day, you still believe.
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Yale University also did a study that checked to see which group had the most deaths from covid in Florida and Ohio. It wasn't the group that accepted the vaccinations.
Once COVID Vaccines Were Introduced, More Republicans Died Than Democrats

I would also be the last one to say that there isn't the possibility that a person may discover to their detriment, that they are sensitive to a vaccine. I know it happens. Gosh, some people can have a reaction to a peanut! We are all different. But compared to the number of people who's lives have been saved by vaccines, that number is small. So I've chosen to go the route of following medical sciences recommendations and that's my perogative, just like yours is to not. But when you chose to not follow the recommendations, you also chose to be restricted in some of your activities. Your choice.
 

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