Against the vaccine? What about polio?

@Remy, so they made you take the first two shots of the vaxx and then they forced the boosters on you too? That's really rough. SIL had to get vaxxed to keep her job but they left her alone after the two shots and never forced a booster.

I never liked the way covid was handled. Mandates. Forcing people to take a drug that many didn't want or lose income and all that entails. I can't see myself ever taking a covid shot in the future.
My experience has kind of turned me off anymore vaccines. I'm not anti-vax at all. But I don't want shingles, flu, pneumonia. Whatever.

I do believe that booster was mandatory. Or I would not have got it.
 

My experience has kind of turned me off anymore vaccines. I'm not anti-vax at all. But I don't want shingles, flu, pneumonia. Whatever.

I do believe that booster was mandatory. Or I would not have got it.
That's terrible about your eye. These are the important things that people need to know before taking a vaccine or mRNA shot.
 
Have never had polio vaccine never will, and haven't had smallpox, either only 1 flu shot 30 years ago, will never get covid 19 vaccines two many people dying suddenly, getting cancer, and much more murder and mayhem in the world since covid 19 vaccines.
Nan, my wife and I have both received the initial Covid vaccine and every booster since. Nothing that I have read or heard has indicated the slightest evidence of sudden death or cancer afflicting those wise enough to receive the initial Covid vaccine and boosters. On the other hand …

“Latest CDC Data: Unvaccinated Adults 97 Times More Likely to Die from COVID-19 Than Boosted Adults”https://www.factcheck.org/2022/02/s...ely-to-die-from-covid-19-than-boosted-

If you research the subject, you will not find evidence that a Covid vaccination causes cancer, but rather that those already with cancer and contract Covid run a higher risk of death, therefore those with cancer should talk to their doctor about receiving the Covid vaccine.
 
Nan, my wife and I have both received the initial Covid vaccine and every booster since. Nothing that I have read or heard has indicated the slightest evidence of sudden death or cancer afflicting those wise enough to receive the initial Covid vaccine and boosters. On the other hand …

“Latest CDC Data: Unvaccinated Adults 97 Times More Likely to Die from COVID-19 Than Boosted Adults”https://www.factcheck.org/2022/02/s...ely-to-die-from-covid-19-than-boosted-

If you research the subject, you will not find evidence that a Covid vaccination causes cancer, but rather that those already with cancer and contract Covid run a higher risk of death, therefore those with cancer should talk to their doctor about receiving the Covid vaccine.
Didn't the doctors who had direct evidence linking cancer to the covid 19 shots die in an airplane crash last month in south America? I heard that they did but a few survived. I wonder if they will move forward with what they know or not now?
 
Didn't the doctors who had direct evidence linking cancer to the covid 19 shots die in an airplane crash last month in south America? I heard that they did but a few survived. I wonder if they will move forward with what they know or not now?
I have spent considerable time searching for claims that the Covid vaccine “Causes Cancer” and found NOTHING! I did find a claim that a Covid infection in those who already have cancer can be deadly, therefore those who have cancer should speak to a doctor about the likely advisability of getting a Covid vaccine. More investigation just found a reference to the probable source of your claim…

“It has not been shown that COVID-19 vaccines cause or accelerate cancer. Yet opponents of the vaccines say a new review article “has found that COVID-19 mRNA vaccines could aid cancer development.” The review conclusions are mainly based on the misinterpretation of a study on mRNA cancer vaccines in mice.”
Still No Evidence COVID-19 Vaccination Increases Cancer Risk, Despite Posts - FactCheck.org
 
I get it a few weeks before a long trip. Most of the people I know who have had Covid seemed to have got it while traveling.
I likely got Covid from a close associate who is an avid anti-vaxer.

I recently got a notice from my health care provider that a booster is available, will have it administered next time I'm in one of their facilities.
 
I likely got Covid from a close associate who is an avid anti-vaxer.

I recently got a notice from my health care provider that a booster is available, will have it administered next time I'm in one of their facilities.
In fairness to your friend, it’s possible for vaccinated people to get covid and pass it on. The vaccine‘s big benefit is that the risk of really bad Covid, the kind that might hospitalize you, is greatly reduced.

The good news is that unlike the first few Covid shots I had which landed me in bed for 1/2 day until I got over the soreness and general feeling of being beaten up by a heavy weight boxer, the only bad effect was a bit of soreness where the needle entered my body.
 
Have never had polio vaccine never will, and haven't had smallpox, either only 1 flu shot 30 years ago, will never get covid 19 vaccines two many people dying suddenly, getting cancer, and much more murder and mayhem in the world since covid 19 vaccines.
If you went to public school in the US, it's very likely you were vaccinated for polio. Rare exceptions for allergies were permitted, but generally speaking everyone born in the 50s or later had polio vaccs. No idea how it went elsewhere.
 
If memory serves me polio targeted children which made the vaccine appropriate. The immune compromised are the "poor outcome" targets for COVID which makes the vaccine questionable for children. IMHO.
 
It isn't about guessing or projecting bias. People just want to know what's going on before blindly subjecting themselves and others to vaccines and "vaccines" (gene therapies).

As it is, excess deaths related to Covid are still on the rise. Much evidence suggests that the "vaccines" may be implicated, despite the shouting down of any research and papers supporting the possibility.

I'm not sure why a new polio vaccine should be any different. We need independent analysis and open disclosure to the public.
Where is this 'much evidence'? I hear people say that all the time and they never provide links from credible sources? Was it a neighbour? Or a podcast by some anti-vaxxer? Where's the links. The world's information is available at our finger tips so let's have links when statements are made.
 
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Vaccines used to go through like a 10 year trial before being released to the public.
That's no longer the case. So there's much suspicion raised when the public becomes your testing ground.

As far as covid goes, people in America were funding research into passing animal viruses to humans. When it lab leaked, those funding the research panicked and they were so afraid they had leaked something that there would be no immunity to, they quickly had a vaccine rushed out and force fed it to the public.

They went as far as telling medical people to list all deaths as covid. This again caused suspicion.

Then they threatened people's jobs, ruined businesses.

None of this was the case with the polio vaccine back in the day. If anybody is guilty of creating doubt and suspicion about vaccines, it's big pharma and the government.
Who said to 'list all deaths as covid'?
 
That's a poor imitation of a magical cure that I formulated as a child, and which I later called ... Notavax.

What I do is get a drinking glass, fill it up with pure water, don't add anything, and then drink it.
I've been drinking this daily since being a child and this magical cure has made me immune to viruses.
I've never been able to even find one, much less to catch or get sick from one. They must be hiding from me.

It also helps that I stay away from drug pushing doctor quacks and their toxic petro-chemical concoctions.
I don't watch the news and that's helpful too. Plus I don't wear a mask and don't put toxic chemicals on my hands.
Cemataries are full of people who used the same 'vaccine'.
 
The wife and I just got the latest Covid booster and a Flu shot. Other than a sore arm (I got both in the same arm) absolutely no ill effects. For those not familiar with the sore arm, there is no discomfort unless pressure is applied - so being a side sleeper I get the shots in the arm I do not sleep on.
 
This was something coming across Facebook early on but was stifled by Facebook censorship.
So if there's no legitimate, credible authority who said that, why does it get passed on? Seems to me the same could be said for much of your comment. It's like assuming that everything Joe Rogan (or others) says is indisputable. SOMEONE said it, must be true?

Part of the reason that the vaccine could be developed so fast was because it was based on decades of previous vaccine research. Then I also found this:
From the link: .....Driven by a global urgency and underpinned by decades of prior work on vaccine technology, vaccine developers found a way to chop not just days or months, but years off the timeline (SN: 2/21/20). What was jettisoned was not the science, or the safety tests, but rather the wait time baked into the development process — waiting for results and waiting for regulatory approvals (SN: 7/10/20).

To back up a bit first, designing the vaccines began far earlier than the jabs-in-arms stage. It began with deciphering the exact genetic makeup of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19 (SN: 12/11/20). By early January 2020, that genetic blueprint was in hand and the first vaccines to test were ready just a few weeks later............Those instructions could then be fed directly into pre-made delivery vehicles that carry the genetic code to cells to induce an immune response. Scientists had already built these rapid, genetically based templates largely because of the ongoing battle against HIV,.............https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-coronavirus-vaccine-development-speed

And I believe the various vaccines developed, came from American companies, not the lab in Wuhan. And no one forced anyone to get a shot. Nobody dragged into a doctors office against their will so 'force fed' is a hyperbolic phrase to use,. Were there restrictions on those who refused? You bet because it was a global health emergency, but it was temporary.

I think the reason that polio and measles is coming back is because alarmists fabricated stories to explain their personal reluctance to get the vaccine and to pass blame onto others for their reluctance. And the result is that more and more people are stepping onto that slippery slope because instead of looking up real information from credible sources, they're allowing others to think for them. And that means, the virus's have gotten a new toehold and are spreading. Children are paying for this.

I think that the continued research and investigations of how it all played out and with regards to the effects of long-covid, show that there was reason to be concerned and to take extreme precautionary measures. People are still dying today of covid. I live in a province of about 5 million people and in the past year 732 people have died of covid. For comparison purposes, in an average flu season in Alberta, 41 people die. And that's only one province.
 
The polio vaccine was developed over a period of years. And I might add, before things became so damn politicized. The Covid vaccines were produced inside of weeks, and have since proven to be less than completely effective. The Covid vaccine, and Covid itself, has been politicized to the max. There is no valid comparison.
 
The polio vaccine was developed over a period of years. And I might add, before things became so damn politicized. The Covid vaccines were produced inside of weeks, and have since proven to be less than completely effective. The Covid vaccine, and Covid itself, has been politicized to the max. There is no valid comparison.
The covid vaccines were predicated on decades of research on other cars-covid virus's. Decades. So yes, they can be compared. And instead of paperwork lying around for weeks or months waiting for approvals, due to the aggressive spread of a new virus, those documents were looked at and received approval asap.
 

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